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  • #16
    Originally posted by rickkaufman on May 3, 2008 9:04 AM
    Aaron, I recently wrapped mine in the white "tape" roll. It doesn't look too bad, and does a good job. If you would like to see a photo or two, I can post. I admit, in hindsight, that ceramic coating in black is probably a better idea. I understand that the European spec motor did not have any insulation when they left the factory. Ian, did your car have the insulation? - Rick

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    • #17
      Originally posted by rickkaufman on January 18, 2009 7:42 AM
      Guys,
      My exhaust saga continues. I'm repainting my car, and have finally decided to figure out the Euro/US exhaust issue at the same time. I'm cutting off the Euro "bracket" in order to modify it to accept the US rubber hangers. I'm curious if anyone has had any issues with this "cut/weld" method. I have seen US Daytonas with this modification, but not on a C/4. Also, has anyone ever seen a US and a Euro center section FE1325 side by side? I have heard a rumor that the Euro model of the ANSA 1325 is wider. I find that hard to believe, as the chassis must be the same width and length. I'm not so concerned with the modification to the asbestos ring, but the issue of width is giving me pause. Last, I am curious if anyone who has installed a new stainless center section with spec ANSA rear resonators..... Did that cause a change in the exhaust note? I am prepared to weld shut the extra intakes on the Euro center sections for my US headers-- but I am not eager to use stainless center sections if the exhaust note is different... Gracias, Rick

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Bryan on January 21, 2009 10:44 AM
        I replaced my OEM center and rear sections with Stebro sections. They took a long time to finish them, but the fit between sections and the header and the weld work on the stainless steel is excellent. The tubing is 1/4 inch larger diameter. No discernible change in exhaust tone, warble, tweet, etc.
        I'm not sure that Stebro is as commercially robust as it was then (and it still took a long time). Worth some research before ordering.
        Bryan

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        • #19
          Originally posted by dkblueUK on January 23, 2009 8:29 PM
          Hello Rick,
          When I bought my car, it had a stainless system from the headers back. I didn't like the sound because it droned at around 70mph, which I found annoying. I replaced it with a new Ansa system ( when you could still buy them ! ), and everything was back to normal with the proper exhaust noise. Eventually, the bottoms of the rear silencers boxes started to rot from the inside out , so I took the Ansa system off, and had it duplicated in stainless, i.e same silencer and pipe construction - different steel. Also got them to spray it with black VHT paint, so it looks like the Ansa. Got some Ansa stickers,and put them on the tailpipes, so it now looks like an Ansa system, and more importantly - sounds like an Ansa system.
          I still have the first, noisy system leaning against the garage wall - it's too good to throw away, but I don't know what to do with it - any sensible suggestions welcome.
          My system all hangs off rubber bands, except for the the rear silencers, which use Silentblc bobbins.
          Neil.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by rickkaufman on January 25, 2009 2:02 PM
            Neil, The original ANSA rear resonators are available for the Euro car right now if you wanted them from Ted Rutland in Atlanta, Georga iUSA. I bought a set. They look good in the plastic. I have not installed them yet. My problem is actually with the center sections. Mine (the original Ansa) are shot, and I can't find any US center sections by Ansa. I do have an entire set from Stebro. But I am not confident that i want to install them, as I doubt it'll sound good. So you have an Ansa center section with a stainless repro rear, and it sounds good. I should mention that if you have the original ones and you want to rebuild them, there is a firm in San Diego, California that will rebuild them I think he's a licensed dealer: Gary Bobileff - [email protected]. They charge about $3,000 USD for the center sections. I don't know what they charge for rear sections. I'll keep hunting. Gracias, R

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            • #21
              Originally posted by dkblueUK on January 25, 2009 6:14 PM
              Hello Rick,
              You have misunderstood slightly - what I now have is a stainless steel copy of the Ansa system from the headers back, including the centre boxes. The original system was cut apart in order to copy the construction, which is why it sounds the same as a mild steel one.
              It is always the rear boxes that rot, because they slope down at the front, and all the acidic combustion products sit there and rot them from the inside out. Mind you they last about 10 years.
              My complete system cost around £1200, fitted, in 2004.
              Regards,
              Neil

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Trachsel on January 25, 2009 10:45 PM
                My centre part is over 15 years old and still in order of function. The end boxes are over 10 years old and not rotten, because I drilled a hole of 3 mm in the muffler at the deepest point. So all the acidic water can drain out.
                And I never start the engine only to here the 12 cylinder sound. When I start the engine, I go for a drive until water and oil get to normal temperature.

                Jacques

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